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Title: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: sealdaddy on November 08, 2014, 04:00:30 PM
Well, it snowed here last night briefly.
And the daytime temps are -7
So, I'll be tying flies soon.  A bunch of feathers and gear are coming thru ebay in a week.
I'll show ya when I make one...lol
Another Huge learning curve ahead

Don
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: lithicbeads on November 08, 2014, 04:31:19 PM
Keep them sparse. Sparse flies always work better it seems. If you are going to fish only with your own flies make a variety of copies of local classics from big to little and dark to light. Salmon can be a real pain as you can cast over them a hundred times and some one else will move into the spot and get fish immediately. In most east coast salmon spots that are crowded you are expected to take a step down stream after each cast which is a good idea anyway as you are always casting to fresh water. Learn about " mending " the line to get the fly to deeper water and do not go nuts with movement with the fly as excess movement just takes the fly out of the fishes visual range ( a cone ) before it can get angry enough to strike. Have fun.
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Minkos61 on November 08, 2014, 05:07:38 PM
Don to bad I didn't know you were into fly fishing!!! I got tons of material leftover from a fly tying business I had .

Erine
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: sealdaddy on November 08, 2014, 06:10:10 PM
http://youtu.be/mDdpkx-4IbU
http://youtu.be/w_T6C6ShQQ8
Sparse like these?
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: sealdaddy on November 08, 2014, 06:16:05 PM
Don to bad I didn't know you were into fly fishing!!! I got tons of material leftover from a fly tying business I had .

Erine

Please send them, friend.
I just got enough stuff to get started.
You have my address, right ?
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Phishisgroovin on November 08, 2014, 06:39:27 PM
if you can find antlers around your area, the tips make perfect fishing lures after a dremmel pays them attention.

One year i got fed up with buying commercial lures that didnt work, i caved a fish from antler, used a mouse trap bail to go through it and made loops.
Put a swivel on the front and a hook on the back.
Second or third cast into the river and i had a 25lb chinook salmon on.
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: sealdaddy on November 08, 2014, 06:42:34 PM
if you can find antlers around your area, the tips make perfect fishing lures after a dremmel pays them attention.

I have antler tips a generous member of the old forum sent while I was in Texas.
Please tell, show me the dremmel steps to do that, friend....email them?
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Phishisgroovin on November 08, 2014, 07:01:17 PM
i just used the wood cutting bits and shaped a fish then sanded it a little smoother than rough, doesnt have to be perfect, perfect lures only catch fisherman at cash registers.
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: sealdaddy on November 08, 2014, 07:03:55 PM
i just used the wood cutting bits and shaped a fish then sanded it a little smoother than rough, doesnt have to be perfect, perfect lures only catch fisherman at cash registers.

So antler is better than wood?...why, friend?
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Phishisgroovin on November 08, 2014, 07:06:19 PM
because wood is everywhere, i like making antler stuff.
My hands hurt with tendonitis nowdays so carving is a thing of my past.
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: sealdaddy on November 08, 2014, 08:11:17 PM
because wood is everywhere, i like making antler stuff.
My hands hurt with tendonitis nowdays so carving is a thing of my past.

Sorry about your hands, friend.
THAT is rough for any craftsman...rock or antler~!!
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Minkos61 on November 08, 2014, 09:24:05 PM
Don to bad I didn't know you were into fly fishing!!! I got tons of material leftover from a fly tying business I had .

Erine

Please send them, friend.
I just got enough stuff to get started.
You have my address, right ?

Got your addy now Don sent you an email with mine  :coffee2:
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: sealdaddy on November 12, 2014, 06:20:21 AM
my email is  daddyseal1@gmail.com

what is your?
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: wampidy on November 12, 2014, 08:34:12 AM
I was fishing at a small lake on a reservation and couldn't catch squat. There were blue damsel flies everywhere so it was pretty obvious that the fish were full of them.

I went home and dug out an old small fly tying kit that my dad had used before he died but I had never tried it. I make a few really ugly copies of damsel flies (but I had the color right) and headed back to the lake. Ugly did not matter because they were striking the color. I had my limit in short order even though the flies were shredded from the fish hitting it.

Color is the most important thing according to this lesson. I practiced up a bit and made a few more flies but never really got into it.

If you are using antler or wood it looks to me like you are making minnows (lures) and not flies that would be used with a spin cast rig.
Jim
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: sealdaddy on November 12, 2014, 09:09:49 AM
Cool on the flies~!!!
I'll work on color match combos...thanks
http://youtu.be/QzTuRPlhAZU

I'll ztick with those in winter.
The antler deal was phishin's idea.
I'll try those for bass in the summer.

You have a photo of your flies, Jim?
Don
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: wampidy on November 12, 2014, 10:32:23 AM
hahaha I think I made those before photography was invented. Jeeze, that was way back with my first wife 4/10ths of a century ago.
Jim
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Minkos61 on November 12, 2014, 05:27:22 PM
my email is  daddyseal1@gmail.com

what is your?

minkos61@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Bentiron on November 14, 2014, 03:54:53 PM
I could never get into bait or spin casting but fly fishing was my delight. I could almost always catch my limit of trout without much of a problem. Fly fishing is so much fun. :headbang:
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Itsandbits on November 14, 2014, 04:40:37 PM
I could never get into bait or spin casting but fly fishing was my delight. I could almost always catch my limit of trout without much of a problem. Fly fishing is so much fun. :headbang:
I think it gives the fish a little more chance too, if you don't present properly or the right pattern they won't take it, and once they're on there is no lure weight to spoil the feel. I use a barbless hook and as light of final line as I feel I can for the size of fish I expect to catch and it is usually rated well under the weight of the fish so if I do something wrong they are gone. I haven't kept a fish for eating in years in spite of living in some of the best trout lake areas of the country; saving some for my grandchildren, that is if my kids quit practicing and have some LOL.
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Bentiron on November 15, 2014, 04:24:42 PM
I used to have this really old bamboo fly rod, it was so sweet, I broke the tip on a huge brown trout. I trimmed the top 3" off and it still felt pretty good in my hands so on the next trip I thought that I was far enough away from where the browns hung out but hooked another and there went another 3" off the tip. Luckily there was a spare tip with the rod when I found it on a trip to the landfill, I guess the old man had died and his kids threw out all his fishing gear. I got a tackle box full of lures that I sold for $50 but I kept this rod, had it since I was 16, haven't been able to use it much in the last 20 years with my back. In college in Oklahoma I would use a barbless fly to hook little bluegill to give to the ducks that would follow me around a private lake. These tiny little bluegill would just fly off in midair and the ducks would be running after them like infielders after a popup fly ball, sure was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Itsandbits on November 15, 2014, 04:57:00 PM
I learned to flyfish after I moved to Pr. George from Vanc. and would practice in my backyard throwing different techniques so that I could handle the rod properly when I got on the water or in a tight spot in a river or creek. Being able to present the fly properly is one of the hardest things to learn and the neighbours must have thought I was nuts LOL but I can still put the fly out there 100ft. and land it like a snowflake coming down and I credit those hours of dryland practice.
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: sealdaddy on November 16, 2014, 08:10:41 AM
Wow...y'all are purists!!
I may evolve into that, but years ago at Shasta Lake, I had great success using ultra light spinning tacke, with a small clear tearshaped bobber about 7' before the fly.
The only trick, which I mastered, is knowing how to get the fly to land well ahead of the tiny bobber.
I could use dry, or wet flies (if I put very small split shots about 14" behind it).

Anyone try that?
Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: Phishisgroovin on November 16, 2014, 08:45:51 AM
all my rods & reels are rusting away, covered in inches of dust.

I once had nearly 50 rods aging back to the early days, loved my bamboo rods.
Im a spinning reel guy, levelwinds are for fishing from a boat lol!

knowing how to tie an eyelet back onto a rod in the field is money in the bank.



Title: Re: Tying fishing flies soon
Post by: PhilNM on November 16, 2014, 02:25:58 PM
all my rods & reels are rusting away, covered in inches of dust.

I once had nearly 50 rods aging back to the early days, loved my bamboo rods.
Im a spinning reel guy, levelwinds are for fishing from a boat lol!

knowing how to tie an eyelet back onto a rod in the field is money in the bank.

I know what you mean. I had 2 old bamboo rods, one a 9 footer and the other an 11 footer, both with top end reels. These were OLD!! While I was away in the military, my dad threw them in the trash because he saw the split rods were separating. He had no idea of value or that they could be rewrapped. He also threw away my old old old hand made wooden lures from the 20's and 30's I had collected. Again, they looked dirty and the hooks were dull.  Sigh.. 
Mom did the same with my old original, some first issue, comic books. "You're grown up now, no need for this foolishness". When I told here she threw away about $10K, all she could say was "I wondered why the garbage man put them in the cab instead of the back". Another sigh... Same goes for my Lionel trains. My nest eggs were all gone by the time I got home. They never questioned why the neighbors used to ask "got anything else???"

So don't throw those old rods and reels out! If you no longer want them, I'm the trash man!!! <Grin>.