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Title: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 14, 2024, 08:07:12 PM
any person knows if its what vonsen is?
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: Enchantra on February 19, 2024, 10:39:16 AM
Looks more like Serpentine to me - a really pretty piece of serpentine that could cut up nicely.
Could be jadeite as well, but without some proper testing I would not be able to give you a definitive ID.  Your best course of action if you need a solid ID is to take it to a local University and have then examine/test it and then they could tell you what you have.
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: WingnutAndAPrayer on February 19, 2024, 10:08:19 PM
My vote is in for 'Aventurine'. Quartz with fuchsite mica. Chrome in the fuchsite would afford the same blue-leaning green.
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 20, 2024, 09:59:53 PM
Nono its specific gravity is 2.88 and it cuts class like butter. so it has blue green and whit and orange and a dark green vein harder than the rest of rock since its protruding at fracture
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 20, 2024, 10:02:20 PM
look at this also
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 20, 2024, 10:27:33 PM
+++++UPDATE++++
 i just struck this rock with a quartz and i got piezoelectric sparks, i may even think it is an aquamarine
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: lithicbeads on February 21, 2024, 04:02:03 PM
The last one looks like silicified listwanite. The first one does not look like the Vonson nephrite that I have and looks nothing like jadeite even the not so great California jadeite  from Clear Creek.
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 21, 2024, 08:44:07 PM
its the same stone in all fotos
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 21, 2024, 08:46:01 PM
2 first fotos are with flash , other 2 fotos in daylight
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: 55fossil on February 22, 2024, 09:16:48 AM
     I went through the same problem last year,,,  mine turned out to be Aventurine. The white bands were the real clincher. That and the fact that it was so easy to cut and polish. If you have the ability to polish a corner it may help you identify the rock. I really have to agree with the Aventurine post.
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 23, 2024, 01:57:22 AM
aventurine? with 2.88 specific gravity? never on planet earth.
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: lithicbeads on February 23, 2024, 10:07:21 AM
Silicified listwanite.
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: WingnutAndAPrayer on February 23, 2024, 10:30:58 AM
Does it have a foliation orientation? Any indication of an adaxial or abaxial surface? Looks like the fabric of the rock is very this and that way, like it was stretched and then cracked and filled with quartz secondarily (small vein/dike). Maybe if you could gain some clues from its physical appearance you may be able to uncover some of the processes needed to form it, thus narrowing down potential options for identifying it as one thing or another.

If you whack two quartzes together hard enough they will spark. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: WingnutAndAPrayer on February 23, 2024, 10:34:23 AM
As an aside, Christos, I got a really pretty chunk of Aventurine from a landscaping place that was white, teal, darker green, cream and umber orange. It can happen!

Looking up Listwanite I see it is very similar to Aventurine in chemical composition, just some potassium and iron oxide thrown in. Silicified Listwanite is an awesome guess.
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: lithicbeads on February 23, 2024, 11:54:17 AM
Silicified listwanite, educate yourself.
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 23, 2024, 09:36:23 PM
https://easyimg.io/i/bhglnfbcp/img_20240214_233621.jpg
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 23, 2024, 10:01:11 PM
Silicified listwanite, educate yourself.
i cant see the carbonate in it plus it doesnt react to HCL.

Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 23, 2024, 10:15:50 PM
Does it have a foliation orientation? Any indication of an adaxial or abaxial surface? Looks like the fabric of the rock is very this and that way, like it was stretched and then cracked and filled with quartz secondarily (small vein/dike). Maybe if you could gain some clues from its physical appearance you may be able to uncover some of the processes needed to form it, thus narrowing down potential options for identifying it as one thing or another.

If you whack two quartzes together hard enough they will spark. Just sayin'.
it doesnt react to hcl . i can see beryl stratiation. i can see clear glassy veins in the fracture that make wierd crystal faces if you look close to it. plus look how the white vein is cut by green veins in attached photo
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on February 23, 2024, 10:22:42 PM
if you can enlighten me on this property of rock/crystal ()
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on March 04, 2024, 12:45:21 AM
Silicified listwanite.
i dont think so. wouldnt it fizz when submerged in HCL?
Title: Re: Blue Nephrite? or jadeitite?
Post by: christos on March 10, 2024, 03:58:14 PM
Silicified listwanite.
are you gonna comment on HCL reaction or just act smart?