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Title: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: ToTheSummit on March 19, 2015, 01:31:32 PM
Wasn't sure where to start this topic so I put it in the tools section.

So my uncle has been (among other things) a potter all his life.  He had an old kiln he wasn't using so he gave it to me to play with.  Its an older Paragon E-series kiln.  So now I have this kiln sitting here and I'm trying to come up with cool ideas.

He gave it to me because I was talking to him about "cooking" some rocks just for fun to see what effects I could get.  I have a bunch of boring white agate here that I picked up locally, nice banding but no color at all.  But personally I think a kiln is way overkill for cooking rocks.  However, I thought it might be fun to play with some glass or metals in this thing.  Of course I could fire pottery, but I'm trying to think outside the box and come up with fun projects.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: iceopals on March 19, 2015, 03:55:37 PM
Well, as for out of the box, I do that!!!    :glasses9:
When we were building our house, we got a bunch of those 4x4 white tiles to use as a backsplash in our kitchen.   I used tile paints, made paintings, fired them in the kiln, and now they are permanent!!   So up they went, in amongst the unpainted ones, and I really like them. 
I have also used my ceramics kiln to slump glass over clay forms that were fired in it, to make replacement slumped glass panels for antique lamps.   That's the best I can come up with for now.........
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: wampidy on March 19, 2015, 08:25:59 PM
Remove your fingerprints.
Jim
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: hummingbirdstones on March 19, 2015, 08:53:08 PM
 :laughing4: at Jim!
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: lithicbeads on March 19, 2015, 09:15:55 PM
The kiln is absolutely not overkill for cooking rocks. I do not know where this info should go but I have a lot of info on firing agate , jade and soapstone and would be happy to make a series of short posts about the subject.
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: Helene Fielder on March 19, 2015, 09:38:27 PM
Clay and kiln can be outside the box.

(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/potterybyhelene/IMG_0985%20450_zpsfp7w6tna.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/potterybyhelene/media/IMG_0985%20450_zpsfp7w6tna.jpg.html)

I like the idea of a wall piece.

Another good thing about clay is making slump molds for other medias like glass to heat in the kiln. 
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: MrsWTownsend on March 19, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
Metal clay is a kiln option, glass slumping has been covered- you can even make preforms with slag glass or goldstone wnd fire them to finish, just watch out for that pesky devitrification and use kiln paper or something like that to keep it from sticking.  (It's really hard to get off when that happens.)

What about stained glass?  You could do that too.  I have a book called Gemstones of the World that tells all about a bunch of different types of stone and at what temperatures they can be altered (like amethyst to citrine and stuff like that). 

Frank I would LOVE to read whatever knowledge you have to share on the subject!

Rockin' Tapatalk

Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: drnihili on March 20, 2015, 09:50:42 AM
Frank I would LOVE to read whatever knowledge you have to share on the subject!

Ditto.  We've got a couple of small kilns for Teresa's lampwork.  I'm sure one of them could be pressed in to service for the occasional rock.
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: ToTheSummit on March 21, 2015, 01:48:54 PM
I'd love to hear any info you have on cooking rocks Frank.

I have a local resource for all the slag glass I could want in just about every color imaginable so lots of glass projects are a possibility.
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: lithicbeads on March 21, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
I can't sit at the computer long so I will do it in stages. I will look later at a possible category to put them under. Any ideas?
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: PhilNM on March 21, 2015, 06:24:19 PM
I'd love to hear any info you have on cooking rocks Frank.

I have a local resource for all the slag glass I could want in just about every color imaginable so lots of glass projects are a possibility.

Can you get striped stuff? Like a base with swirls?  2 or 3 colors per lump max?
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: PhilNM on March 21, 2015, 06:25:55 PM
You could always turn the kiln into one great slow cooker! A great way to do a whole beef clod!
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: ToTheSummit on March 22, 2015, 03:22:59 PM
Frank, maybe we can start a thread on the topic somewhere.  Your guess on where to put it is as good as mine.

Phil, I had to pull out some old photos from the place to remember if they had any with multiple colors and this is what I found.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/ToTheSummit/Miscellaneous/Glass1_zpsv8mpnmty.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ToTheSummit/media/Miscellaneous/Glass1_zpsv8mpnmty.jpg.html)

But they've got piles of it lying around, I don't know how many tons in all.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/ToTheSummit/Miscellaneous/Glass2_zpstcdeibte.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ToTheSummit/media/Miscellaneous/Glass2_zpstcdeibte.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/ToTheSummit/Miscellaneous/Glass3_zps81czc53q.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ToTheSummit/media/Miscellaneous/Glass3_zps81czc53q.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/ToTheSummit/Miscellaneous/Glass4_zpshxycds1y.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ToTheSummit/media/Miscellaneous/Glass4_zpshxycds1y.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: PhilNM on March 22, 2015, 05:17:34 PM
Judging by the saguaro lamp lights, it's somewhere in Arizona?  Do you get there often?  I'm looking for some opaque that has bright red as the base with yellow and orange swirls.
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: hummingbirdstones on March 22, 2015, 05:20:52 PM
I suggest you put it under tutorials because that's what it will be.  Tutorials on how to cook rocks.   :icon_sunny:
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: lithicbeads on March 22, 2015, 07:46:27 PM
I will get on the cooking this week. I worked tearing a giant glass kiln apart years ago. We had to jackhammer 5 feet of solid glass out of the glass tank first. Many pieces looked like those. Incredibly dangerous job from the flying glass shards.
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: ToTheSummit on March 23, 2015, 09:16:01 AM
I'm in Las Vegas Phil.  This place is on the southwest outskirts of town.  I don't go out there often, but its not hard to make a trip out there.  Its about 40 min from my house, but I live in the far North end of the valley.  You could be there in 15 min from the airport.

Here is a link to their website, although the website really doesn't begin to scratch the surface of what you can find there.
http://www.cactusjoeslasvegas.com/
You could call and ask if they have glass that you are interested in.  I'd be happy to run out and pick it up for you/ship it if they don't offer that service.

I think someone there is a rockhound.  They have some lapidary rough and slabs as well.  The place is worth a visit for anyone who comes to Vegas.  Its a little-known gem here in our Valley.
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: PhilNM on March 23, 2015, 06:51:54 PM
yeah, flying to vegas wouldn't be bad, but trying to get buckets of rocks on the return flight MIGHT be a problem....  :WEEEE:
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: lithicbeads on March 23, 2015, 06:59:28 PM
Mail your rocks home. We get as much as 49 lbs of jade in a large postal service mailer.
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: MrsWTownsend on March 26, 2015, 12:18:58 PM
Judging by the saguaro lamp lights, it's somewhere in Arizona?  Do you get there often?  I'm looking for some opaque that has bright red as the base with yellow and orange swirls.

Seems like I have a piece of slag somewhere that might be like that...  Or it is orange with red swirls...  I'll look for it this weekend.
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: Enchantra on May 04, 2015, 06:09:07 PM
You have a kiln - a very USEFUL tool!
As mentioned there is metal clay of various types, glass slumping and forming, clay beads, clay sculpture, mold burnout...
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: Phishisgroovin on May 04, 2015, 06:24:14 PM
or figure out how to transfer images to a tile (or 100 tiles)
Title: Re: What to do with a kiln...ideas?
Post by: MrsWTownsend on May 07, 2015, 12:13:02 PM
Judging by the saguaro lamp lights, it's somewhere in Arizona?  Do you get there often?  I'm looking for some opaque that has bright red as the base with yellow and orange swirls.

Seems like I have a piece of slag somewhere that might be like that...  Or it is orange with red swirls...  I'll look for it this weekend.

I totally forgot about this...  What a slacker.