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Phishisgroovin

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saving Photos from other sites is a no no.
« on: July 16, 2018, 08:55:50 PM »

Saving an image from another persons website, then coming here and posting it in your topic is stealing.
It is also Copyright infringment which can sometimes lead to being sued.

It was recently brought to my attention involving Tahoma Jasper. a few images were taken from the persons website, brought here and posted in a topic talking about the jasper.
I wont name names, I deleted the images.

In the future and since it can ultimately lead to court hearings, if anyone posts an image taken from any website other than their own, its possible you will be unable to post here temporarily and possibly permanently.
this is a serious situation, the owner names on the hosting (ME) can be sued financially.

If you have taken ANY images from any website, posted them here in your topics. please go back to your posts and remove them.
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Re: saving Photos from other sites is a no no.
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2018, 08:28:46 AM »

 Watermark photos.
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Re: saving Photos from other sites is a no no.
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2018, 08:43:39 AM »

I wonder how Google gets away with it.  Often, when I check out Google Images, I find photos from my own website and many others.  They do have back links to the individual websites but they've never asked my permission before basically swiping my stuff.

I don't mind at all because those images bring more traffic to my site.  But from a strictly legal standpoint, what's the difference between Google's aggregation of copyrighted images vs a forum or an individual using them?   
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Re: saving Photos from other sites is a no no.
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2018, 09:09:18 AM »

    As I was once told, "we have dozens of lawyers that we need to keep busy". Not by Google but another major corporation. Not sure how many rock and gem people can afford to "lawyer up" as they say today???? So it is good to be on a Forum with integrity.
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Re: saving Photos from other sites is a no no.
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2018, 03:32:56 PM »

Often, when I check out Google Images, I find photos from my own website and many others.  They do have back links to the individual websites but they've never asked my permission before basically swiping my stuff. 
Copyright law is flexible enough that you or I would have a difficult and expensive time proving that Google, Pinterest and similar sites violated your copyright - and even then you'd likely be awarded minimal or no "damages" unless the image was one that you or others actually make a profit from displaying or selling. There ARE public domain (including just about all images dating before 1923 and most images created by and for the U.S. and other governments), copyright free and royalty-free usage (e.g., the Creative Commons license that Wikipedia and others use) that allow images to be used anywhere. If one isn't sure, then you are safer just assuming that someone owns the rights to the photo. Google and others would likely quickly remove any image that was objected to by its author, but if sued, likely would successfully argue that their uses fall under the "Fair Use" provisions of copyright law in defense of their displaying works of others that are published elsewhere on the Internet.

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Re: saving Photos from other sites is a no no.
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2018, 07:42:17 PM »

Most people simply ignore copyright.  On my website every image has at the bottom of it "images are copyright of the owner" and each image's meta tags have copyright information and copyright turned on yet I regularly find the images all over pinterest and other sites.  I don't think the average person understands copyright and just feels that if they copy it but don't sell it that it doesn't apply.

On a similar note did you know that any image you take of an animal at most city zoo's remains the copyright of the zoo since the animals likeness belongs to them.

The most surprising thing I have ever found was on a major book publishing site.  I actually read their agreement you always have to say yes to in order to use a site and in their agreement it states that any images you upload to have put in your book belong to the publishing company and they retain the right to sell, use or resell any of your images in perpetuity blah blah blah.  Who would upload to the site if they actually read the agreement?  But pretty much no one does.

Not the site I spoke of above but if you ever used shutterfly you have given them full rights and transferable rights to your images.  Here is text from their terms of use.  Scary 
"You will retain ownership of such User Submitted Materials, and you grant us and our designees a worldwide, non-exclusive, transferable, royalty-free, perpetual irrevocable right and license, with right of sublicense (through multiple tiers), to use, reproduce, distribute (through multiple tiers)" etc etc etc.  In short you own but you won't get paid and they can use it or let anyone else use it forever for any reason.
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Re: saving Photos from other sites is a no no.
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2018, 05:30:23 AM »

I seldom get into politics hete but unless noted once a picture is made open to the public it's available to the public unless marked. If anyone is that way then it's up to them to protect their image. Sue me but I see no problem. How many times has someone posted a pic to help us solve a problem on repairs etc here that they got from somewhere else. Photo infringement belongs in the Polaroid antique days. Internet killed that. Sorry but my opinion...
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Re: saving Photos from other sites is a no no.
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2018, 05:34:17 AM »

Don't try to enforce a rule or law that cannot be enforced due to massive issues. I post pics on here from people that have made jewelry from my claim in Az.36768149_792329484491309_286576697778634752_o.jpg
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Re: saving Photos from other sites is a no no.
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2018, 05:39:00 AM »

That material is from my claim. The ring was made by a member on here. He posted it on Facebook and I lifted it.

Do you have permission to lift the pic for the monthly cab conest and post it on the top of this page? 

Don't try to do the impossible.
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Re: saving Photos from other sites is a no no.
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2018, 06:40:21 AM »

Orrum,

Actually, yes, the folks who enter the cab contest know that the "prize" for winning the contest is having their cab posted on top of the forum for a month.   :icon_sunny:
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