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Re: What's happening out your way?
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2020, 09:50:29 PM »

They even call it Boomer Remover. Sorry, I have an offbeat sense of humour.
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Re: What's happening out your way?
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2020, 09:36:00 AM »

I figured I'd be hearing something like that sooner or later.🙀  You have to have a sense of humor or go nuts. Re
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Re: What's happening out your way?
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2020, 10:23:13 AM »

On the local news this morning there was an interview with some young folks (under 30) that were out socializing and partying at the local Seattle beach enjoying the great weather yesterday.  One young man was interviewed about their  behavior, and t :Bash:he comment made was they weren't going to let some virus ruin their fun--they have to live their lives.   I thought, ah ha...I always thought there was no fixing stupid, now I see their is.   
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Re: What's happening out your way?
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2020, 10:32:18 AM »

The "namaste" gesture seems to be replacing handshaking, and it apparently has arisen spontaneously all over in many places rather than just through social media. Also, since we now have the internet, interesting questions arise about possible permanent changes to society. Just thinking. Arthur C. Clark had much to say about the affect of computers that we've already seen. Where to from here?
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Re: What's happening out your way?
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2020, 10:36:12 AM »

Reply to just before my post. I think they call it a Darwin award. I don't know. Get it and build your antibodies and get it over with?  What next
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Re: What's happening out your way?
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2020, 10:57:37 AM »

I go to the VA Hospital where they took the Veteran from the old folks home... where he died. Many other veterans have contracted the virus here as well.   

So what the F are some of you thinking?????    Saying crap like  boomer doomer, get it and get over it, I always thought there was no fixing stupid, now I see their is.   that is not humor

    Well, when your friends and family start dying or lose their jobs …. see who is laughing then.
 Humor check is for all those who think Trump is doing a great job staying ahead of this problem.

   I hope everyone uses a little bit of brains and some empathy for those who are truly at risk and have family members who contract this disease. So far my family and friends are well. We do know people who actually have contracted the disease as we are near one of the centers of the virus.
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Re: What's happening out your way?
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2020, 11:29:36 AM »

It's too scary to be serious. If we see the same 20% to 70% infection rate as the seasonal flu with it's 35,000deaths at a mortality rate .1 %, you will see 250,000 deaths from COVID-19 , if we are lucky at a .6% mortality. In South Korea with Orwellian levels of tracking and extensive testing they are seeing the .6%. They also do early intervention. We are seeing mortality rates all over the place, 4.5% is often quoted, but I think that has more to do with healthcare systems' ability to treat. In a lot cases, by the time they hit the hospital, they are too far gone. I spent a lot of time in the ICU with my younger sister, she had cancer last November. The bank of machines was impressive. There wasn't that many ICU units !

On the economic front, it might even be more painful.If we look at our economy, so much of it is in the service sector. During this time, it's essential services only. So the that sector is toast. If people can't leave the house, they can't shop in the mall. Stores are closing, those that remain open,  are doing so at reduced hours and staff. I think we will see a retail sales drop of at least 25% , China saw a reduction of 20.5% . Even though Chinese are much more materialistic than us, the people are poorer, so frivolous spending  takes up mush less of their income.



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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2020, 11:42:25 AM »

 ????   It's too scary to be serious.

   I know what you are saying, but.....  Stupid is as stupid does is another line that comes to mind. I have no worries in life except to enjoy it. I look beyond my own yard when I do things and say things. More to worry about in life than only what affects you. Well, some people think that way.

Thinking that I can get the virus, spread it around and not worry because I will probably survive it is just stupid. Guess you cannot build up an immunity to stupid!!!!  See, I do have a sense of humor. Okay, sorry, some people do dye from a bad case of stupid.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2020, 12:35:54 PM »

I think a guy called Darwin had a theory about that. We have to laugh because our tears will soon run out. They talk about flattening curve, all that means is spreading it out over time. Same basic number of cases. If my 50+ year memory of Math 12 serves me right.

My wife went rockhounding today, Her friend and her went in two separate cars, and plan to keep 2 meter or 6feet  apart on the river bar. It's a beautiful day here.
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2020, 01:33:49 PM »

We may be in this long term. Stay home as much as possible, social distance, but you cannot keep a grim attitude for months on end, you can worry yourself to death. Just do what's necessary to protect yourself and family and live your life.
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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2020, 01:49:35 PM »

I am taking care of family and friends if needed with supplies and other than that NOT watching the financial market destroy my 401k and retirement account and cut stones in the garage and take daily walks to maintain sanity.  I don't need an ulcer on top of things.  Worried, yes.  what ifs?  too many to count.  I wake in the morning in "dreams" that I can't get out of my mind on things happening around us.  Trying to keep some measure of routine and something that makes you feel good (like cutting rocks) is all we can count on and we need that.  My youngest today, 22 years old in response to the stay home order in California said to me so does that mean I could stay at a friends house, I told him that is not what the order means and you know it.
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2020, 02:29:52 AM »

About 95% of all cancers are caused from viruses. So why haven't we freaked out over spreading of cancer viruses such as the HPVs, JCV, CMV, various herpes viruses, various hepatitis viruses, HTLV1, HTLV2, etc, etc, etc.

In fact I can think of a number of viruses that have killed more people than Covid19 and people seen to keep forgetting that viruses such as influenza and Covid19 are only killing people with already compromised immune systems.  This is why we have also have isolation for people with severely compromised immune systems such as cancer patients or AIDS patients who have had their immune systems wiped out by medications. We have never collapsed the economy before over infectious viruses. This is really STUPID!!!! Especially the panicking.

In fact taking this further according to the CDC there are 480,000 deaths per year in the United States from smoking including more than 41,000 deaths from second hand smoke. So where is the media panicking people about these things that kill more people annually than Covid19 has?

How about FDA approved pharmaceutical drugs that have killed people? For instance the FDA low-ball estimates that over 16,500 people annually die from the use of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as aspirin, ibuprofen, celecoxib, naproxen, etc. Most of these drugs were originally considered so dangerous for human use that they could only be sold with a prescription. As soon as their patents expired though they suddenly and magically became safe enough that the FDA allowed these drugs to be sold over the counter without a prescription. And deaths or injuries are not just from overdoses. In fact the stronger NSAIDs such as  ibuprofen, celecoxib and naproxen can all cause heart attacks, strokes, liver or kidney failure even with single recommended doses. This fact has been known for decades but the FDA only finally admitted to these facts a little over a decade ago. So where is the media yelling the sky is falling with all these deaths again exceeding the death toll annually in the U.S. for Covid19?!!!

The media has really over hyped the issue which I find interesting they started right before the elections and the "experts" are claiming will be over by November, which also happens to be when the elections will be over.
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Re: What's happening out your way?
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2020, 10:02:10 AM »

Just read an article that lists the death rate at 3.4 percent, those were in hospitals or reported. Many probably are not as often symptoms are vary mild. People may not even suspect they have it. Some experts think it's less than 1 percent. The data is still coming in I suppose.
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2020, 10:02:18 AM »

This a coronavirus like SARS or MERS, in fact the virus name is SARS something or other. With my curiosity peaked, I'll try to satisfy my thirst for knowledge, YouTube is great. There is always some professor , or in this case a doctor , giving some talk. You are right there, this is a viral infection like the flu or a cold. What puts this one high on the scare scale are it's combination of contagiousness and deadliness. SARS of 2003 was much more deadly but luckily, much less contagious.  Since this is a new to humans virus, we have no antibodies . BTW they are following a play book from what worked with the Spanish flu of 1918.
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2020, 10:15:15 AM »

We should be keeping focus on developing treatments for other diseases - not cutting research funds for those or backing off on efforts to counter preventable health problems such as smoking. Be that as it may, there is no reason not to address a new deadly outbreak. COVID19 was an obvious threat from the earliest days. It is a deadly form of the common cold virus, which spreads just as quickly and has a greater mortality rate than influenza. Moreover, there is no proven cure for Corona viruses and no vaccine to stop or moderate its spread.

No reputable source or "expert" is claiming this thing will be over by November. What they are trying to do now is get a handle on it before the "cough and cold season" winds down in May-June. If anything, the potential is that it will explode again next November, just as other corona cold viruses normally do, unless an effective vaccine and/or treatment can be quickly developed over the summer.

The mainstream media has run stories about the dangers of bleeding and liver damage for NSAIDs and similar OTC remedies for decades. The FDA has also put out warnings (they require them right there on the boxes).

The US and some other countries could have reacted much faster, as did South Korea and others who have maintained their bio-hazard defenses, to avoid this type of widespread shut down (by immediately deploying out country-wide testing using the kits the WHO made available months ago and implementing targeted sanitation and isolation regamins). Backing off efforts to contain this is just wrong-headed. Hopefully, this will be coralled in time so the conspiracy theorist crowd can point to the successful efforts to make out that it was all a hoax.
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