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55fossil

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Stabilized Turquoise ??? almost all of it it is !!!
« on: October 01, 2017, 03:23:03 PM »

   I have no problem with stabilized material, I just try to never buy it because that is my preference. That said, here are some sites to fact check on stabilized Turquoise that seem reliable. Many sellers (Coolbaugh) sell material listed as natural that is stabilized. Many other sellers just have no idea they are selling stabilized rough. I have gone to Tucson as a dealer and purchased in the Dealer's Only areas. The consensus was that almost all Turquoise available on the open market is stabilized or treated in some manner. That does not mean it is bad.
PS:  I use glues to make doublets and triplets. It is an extremely rare case that I stabilize or treat any stone and I always declare it if I do.

http://www.theturquoisechick.com/stabilized_turquoise_facts.htm

http://www.turquoiseguide.com/articles/turquoise/turquoise-basics/treated-turquoise.htm

The below is from Fire Mountains which is a very honest disclosure.
There are many different enhancements applied to turquoise stones and each treatment should be clearly identified by the seller through the standardized enhancement codes of the American Gem Trade Association (AGTA).
When selling turquoise, Fire Mountain Gems and Beads uses these standard enhancement codes:
(D) or (dyed) to indicate when turquoise has been dyed
(S) or (stabilized) to note if the turquoise has been stabilized
(N) or (natural) to denote a gemstone that has not been dyed, stabilized or had other enhancements applied
There is also reconstituted turquoise. Reconstituted turquoise is made from ground-up turquoise such as pieces that are lost during the cutting process. There is usually very little natural stone in reconstituted turquoise, instead containing mostly resin and dyes. This is often called "block" turquoise and is considerably cheaper than other turquoise stones.
What is Stabilized Turquoise?

Most turquoise sold for use in jewelry-making is stabilized. There are three main stabilization treatments currently applied to turquoise stones:
Paraffin polish
Polyresin polish
Impregnation of a colorless bonding agent--commonly plastic--for basic stabilization. This stabilization increases the durability, hardness, chemical resistance and uniform appearance of the turquoise. Stabilization frequently darkens the color and gives the stone a glossy appearance--a handy way to identify basic stabilized turquoise.
A fourth stabilized turquoise method, reserved for high-grade varieties of turquoise, is called the Zachery process, which does not use artificial additives such as plastic or dyes and can only be detected at the molecular level. The time-consuming treatment results in a more dense stone that takes a better polish and is resistant to discoloration over time.
Types of Turquoise
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Orrum

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Re: Stabilized Turquoise ??? almost all of it it is !!!
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2017, 06:08:30 PM »

I was told by a registered gemologist that about 5 % of turquoise is workable without treatment/stabilization.
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Re: Stabilized Turquoise ??? almost all of it it is !!!
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 06:23:47 PM »

I have lived in AZ for most of my life.  Turquoise seems to have a hold on a lot of folks, especially here.  I guess it sells very well.  Stabilized?  You can smell the epoxy when you cut into it, or the large lots available in Tuscon.  Bizbee (sp?) is the best, and very rare. You can find it SW AZ / NM around the Apache Rez. And I do mean AROUND!!  I respect that.   Pricey. Worth it, though!
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2018, 08:38:39 PM »

Today, the most common method of stabilization seems to be with an acryllic. Almost every stabilizer I know uses acryllic because it is less harmful to the people, the environment and the eventual wearer. To me, it stinks tho...
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Re: Stabilized Turquoise ??? almost all of it it is !!!
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 09:50:54 PM »

And there are plenty of "turquoise nuggets" sold that have no evidence of any turquoise, powdered or otherwise. I cut one fake nodule on the trim saw to see what it was and nearly chocked on the plastic fumes.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2018, 10:42:36 PM »

Newest craze on the TV jewelry networks is Zachery Treated turquoise. Especially sleeping beauty turquoise. And they cleverly use lawyer approved language to avoid the fact that the turquoise is treated. This method of silica vapor infusion makes the treatment basically undetectable even by labs.

I really like and cut lots of stabilized turquoise especially kingman. I even made a FB page here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1275921869159923/

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