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yukonjade

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Polka dot agate claim Oregon
« on: September 29, 2016, 09:26:13 PM »


  I was here last week to stock up for the winter,picked up some
 purple sage material which does a good job of hiding the beauty of the
 agate in it with a chalky whitish matrix.The owner also just bought the
 Blue mountain jasper claim from the owner of the Lucky strike thunder egg
 claim.The blue mountain jasper is known for its orbs and it takes a superior
 polish it sells for $25.00 a pound at the polka dot claim.
 I have a picture of the purple sage cab, the only one I have done so far and
 will post some more of that material and of the Blue mtn.
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Re: Polka dot agate claim Oregon
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2016, 11:52:09 PM »

Thanks for sharing :)

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Re: Polka dot agate claim Oregon
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2016, 06:33:56 AM »

West Coast has some amazing new blue mountain material up on eBay... Going for more than $25/lb though  :sad5:
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Re: Polka dot agate claim Oregon
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2016, 07:14:27 AM »

I've driven past the polkadot sign a hundred times this summer but haven't been up there yet. Should change that. And my goodness the blue mountain material is gorgeous. Not going to afford that on my salary any time soon.
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Greg Hiller

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Re: Polka dot agate claim Oregon
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2016, 07:33:40 AM »

My wife and I just returned from a rockhounding trip in Idaho and central Oregon.  We heard about the Polka-Dot mine and contacted the owners by phone while we were out there.  In the answering message they mention that the mine is only open on Friday thru Monday.  We really only had Thursday to visit due to our travel plans, so we left a message as to whether there was any possibility to visit on Thursday.  They replied back by voicemail (we were in and out of cell range) to call the guy that opens the mine and lets people in for them (I believe the owners are not usually in the area).  We got a hold of the guy and spoke with him for a while and he was willing to accommodate us on his day off (nice guy and was sincerely trying to help us out), but only if we were looking to purchase quite a lot of material.  We are a very small business, so this really was unlikely to work for us, and we could not make any promises.  He informed us that the cost of ‘digging’ was $3/lb.  He also said it’s not so much of a ‘digging’ site as much as it is a ‘pick up what you see on the ground’ site.  While Polka-Dot agate can be nice/pretty, for me $3/lb for unproven rough that I collect myself seemed mighty steep.  He also (as mentioned by others above) was trying to push the ‘Blue Mountain’ Jasper at $25/lb, again for rough.  YIKES!!!  Too, rich for our tastes. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2016, 09:39:25 PM »

 
 The more times I read Mr. Hillers post re." polka dot agate" the more I feel a retort is in order. #1.if I were making a trip as extensive
as the one you made I would have been sure to arrive at my destination when the claim was open at the owners convenience not mine.
#2.They have a an operation that is not run on a shoestring,observe the trackhoe in the pit.What you don't see is other costly equiptment
on the property plus the recent structure in the picture for the benefit of customers and a porta pottti.The location of the claim is at least
15 miles from the nearest town where ALL supplies must transported that includes gasoline,diesel fuel etc.etc.#3.The fellow that was coming
up there to accommodate you on his day off would have probably been happy if you dropped a C.note or two which isn't unheard of when you
are buying quality material.#4 The polka dot and purple sage are $3.00 a pound,they do the work for you, you have two areas to pore over at your hearts content .They supply the tools and buckets and will give you a ride  up the hill out of the pit if you feel you can't hike it with your
load of agate.However if you are into self abuse you can beat on the exposed face in the pit until the cows come home and hope something larger than a walnut pops off the very hard and resilient surface.#5.I did not see any other of the posts mention that the Blue mountain was being "pushed".Blue mountain jasper is a very high quality jasper that hasn't been mined for some time, I am glad to see rough back on the market at $25.00 a pound and my first cab off the 2 pound piece I purchased (which will give me many) will be priced at least $25.00
I  also am a small Buisiness--me,myself and I, and I recognize that sometimes you have to spend $ over your limit to put out a quality product.

                I hope you enjoyed your visit here in beautiful OREGON!     PS. Google Blue mountain jasper.

                                             Yukon Jade.
           



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Re: Polka dot agate claim Oregon
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2016, 04:35:09 AM »

I'd love to be able to hand-pick amethyst sage for $3 and Blue Mountain for $25. The same material will set you back $10 and $60-$100 respectively (plus shipping) on eBay and you can't even get a good look at it.

You west coasters are spoiled!  :blob1:
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Re: Polka dot agate claim Oregon
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2016, 11:35:00 AM »

Sorry, I did not mean to offend, I only hoped to make people aware of information that is NOT available on-line, or at least not easily.  On the trip we went on I researched long and hard where to go. The goal of my trip was for the most part to rockhound and have the adventure of finding stuff to some extent on my own.  I’d heard about the Polka-Dot mine and found the website http://www.wcmining.com/  However, if you go to that site it says: ‘Due to dramatic changes in West Coast Mining activity, it is necessary for us to change some of the format and content of our website.’  When I read that (and there was no more information on the site, not a link to ANYTHING else) I was worried that something might have happened to the owner, or there had been some ‘dramatic’ problem.  So I was reluctant to call the number for fear of opening up some serious problem or invading someone’s privacy.  This is why we did not know what day the mine would be open, and therefore did not plan our trip to coincide – It’s impossible to find out without calling!  I kind of assumed from the website that the whole operation was shutdown. 

However, when we were at Glass Butte we ran into some people who knew more about the mine/owners and made it sound like there was not a problem.  They said since we were going to be near Madras anyhow, we should attempt to check it out.  That’s when we called the number (only when we were in the area) and got the information about when the site was open.  Maybe $3/lb is a great price for PolkaDot Agate, I don’t know, but I’ve never really seen any PolkaDot agate that impressed me that much, but again…I’m not a big time dealer.  Part of my post was for information so that people know what the charge is.  If that’s a great deal then awesome. 

For me 10-20 lbs would have been enough for the next 20 years for the cabs I make, set in sterling and sell at local craft fares.  The guy opening the mine was certainly willing to bend over backwards for us to open the mine (and I appreciate that, he was super nice), but (as I said in my post) we ARE NOT some giant dealer looking to purchase a pallet’s worth of stuff, so I knew it would not be worth his time (and I completely understand the cost of machinery, etc. that which is why I did not pursue in the end going to the mine). 

>The fellow that was coming up there to accommodate you on his day off would have probably been happy if you dropped a C.note or two which isn't unheard of when you are buying quality material.<

Exactly why we didn’t want to bother him on his day off.  It would have been a waste of time for him.  I did not know anything about the purple sage and I’ve certainly seen some purple sage here on the forum that is nice and I’d love to get a hold of.  Is this the mine for purple sage also?  If not, it is it any different in going to a rock shop and purchasing from a bin full of material?  I guess I was looking for more of a ‘collect on your own’ experience.  Maybe for many things that’s just impossible anymore…I guess everything has become highly commercialized and controlled.  Sigh…

>they do the work for you, you have two areas to pore over at your hearts content .They supply the tools and buckets and will give you a ride  up the hill out of the pit if you feel you can't hike it with your load of agate.  However if you are into self abuse you can beat on the exposed face in the pit until the cows come home and hope something larger than a walnut pops off the very hard and resilient surface<

I did not know that this was a particularly difficult agate to collect.  My mistake.  I guess it’s just not something you can expect to ‘rockhound’ for.  The day before we’d been at the Richardson’s ranch and spent the day collecting thundereggs, and the forms of jasper and agate available there.  While it was certainly difficult to collect large pieces of perfect material from the ‘Rainbow’ and ‘Sunset’ agate areas, there was a lot of material lying here and there that did not require too much effort and was still nice.  The price there was $1/lb., and perhaps we were just making an unfair comparison with the polka dot rough. 

>I did not see any other of the posts mention that the Blue mountain was being "pushed".<

Yup no one else was on the phone call.  Again, the guy from the mine was super nice and super friendly, and perhaps ‘Blue mountain jasper’ at $25/lb is a steal.  He was probably trying to help us out, but we weren’t really looking for picture jasper.  Again we generally are making cabs for jewelry and our experience has often been that to get a good cab with a picture in it the cab ends up being too large for most women to be interested in wearing.  No one we are making stuff for here on the east coast is going to care about the fact that this jasper or that is rare because the mine’s been closed.  They only care if it looks good when they see it.  Heck, most of them don’t even know what jasper is!

> I hope you enjoyed your visit here in beautiful OREGON!     PS. Google Blue mountain jasper.<

We did indeed.  Oregon was fantastic and the people we met were generally very friendly.  When we’ve got a bit more of the rough we collected cut apart I’ll post some photos and more details about our trip. I’m certainly sorry for offending, certainly not my intent.  When we were out there I did indeed look at images of the Blue Mountain jasper on my cell phone.  It is certainly nice, but to me it looked a lot like imperial jasper I had already at home, and we’d just picked up a fair bit of picture jasper at a half-closed down rock shop we came across in our travels closer to Boise. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2016, 01:35:37 PM »

    I am not trying to rip Greg. But I live on both sides of this story. From another small operator to rock buyers and sellers:   I mine most of my own material. I sell rough, slabs, cabs and silver jewelry I make myself. I know what Greg means but he has to understand the dynamics of running a public operation.
     I do not see how they can sell quality rough at $3 a pound while they pay a guy to work. Dead cow is like $25 a pound and you get what is in the box, no returns. I sell my jasper and price it to match the quality of the piece being sold. I also cheap sell some on e-bay. No way could I survive on $3 a pound for quality jasper.
     I use to allow people to come over and buy rough. More than once I have people call me and say they wanted to see everything and they were prepared to come over and buy now. After spending 3 hours getting stuff out, two hours of showing different material as well as several previous e-mails and phone calls.....  They very nicely said thank you for the show and that we only brought $25 so we would like this piece. After the cost of gas, mining, etc I made about five dollars. Then I pleasantly thanked them, sent them on their way and had a beer. Then two more hours to put all the rocks away. I could have cut a couple mighty fine cabs in all the time I used up.
    When I buy rock I am like Greg. I pay retail on line or at shows. I only buy small amounts and usually pay way more than I want. It is all part of the business and I love it. Great people, pretty stones and very few sellers are rolling in cash. But when you are a little guy you have a hard time getting the big box store discount. Just because we are small does not mean we are needy and will take any deal. Just because someone is large does not mean they are making a fortune. Thank goodness they still allow people on their claim as almost everyone has stopped letting the public on their claims due to the high cost of labor and insurance.
     
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