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Wiley's Well trip...updated, trip report.
« on: February 13, 2015, 03:42:29 PM »

For a couple years now I've been wanting to go roam around the Wiley's Well area. I have no doubt the place is picked pretty clean given its popularity with rockhounds for the last 80 years or so, but I still want to see the area. If nothing else just for some nice sightseeing and camping. So I am gonna take a few days off work and make a long weekend out of it to go roam around and see what treasures I can turn up. Really, its just an excuse to get out and sleep under the stars for a few nights. If I can find some nice rocks to bring home that will be a bonus.

So does anyone have experience with the area? How about advice of any kind? I've done a fair amount of research on the area already but first hand knowledge is always the best kind. I don't really need any advice on the topics of back country camping/driving/survival. Those are things I have done on a regular basis for more than a couple of decades. I am a desert rat at heart and I will be right at home out there. I just need some pointers in the rockhounding department, especially if anyone has first hand experiences they would like to share.

Of course the area is famous for its geode beds. But from what I've heard the area has been picked over something fierce. People tell stories of digging a hole 4 feet deep in search of geodes just to find a beer can. But I believe that a guy can still find some if he knows where to look. And I'm sure there are other things worth searching for. Interesting rocks abound throughout the deserts of the southwest and I can't believe this area is any different. And I've heard of uncommon things like psilomelane being found in this area. There is also a pay-to-dig fire agate mine (which I will probably skip).

So, anyone have any advice for me? And if there are any rockhounds who would like to join me you are welcome to do so. I'm going to invite some people I know but I often end up alone on my adventures. I'm going down the first 5 days of April (4/1-4/5 a Wed thru Sun). Thats the soonest I can get away, and any later in the year it will start to get too hot to enjoy this area with any level of comfort.

Cross-posted this at multiple forums to maximize exposure.  Hope thats OK.
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Re: Wiley's Well trip...advice/experiences?
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2015, 07:53:39 PM »

Famous but I have never been there. If you go a few pictures would be great. It sounds like a great place for some careful wandering. Goodluck.
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Re: Wiley's Well trip...advice/experiences?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2015, 02:32:41 PM »

This time next week I'll be hounding Wileys Well.  Really looking forward to this trip.  I've done a ton of research and preparation so I will be able to drive around to the areas I want to visit without aimlessly wandering.  Thats no guarantee I'll find good rocks, but at least I can't use the excuse that I got lost.  If nothing else its gonna be nice to sleep out under the stars for a few nights and enjoy some new scenery during the days.  And with a little luck I'll bring home a few buckets of rocks as well.

Still looks like I will most likely be alone out there.  I have invited pretty much everyone I know but I still get blank stares when I tell them I'm going to be digging holes in the desert for 5 days.
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Re: Wiley's Well trip...advice/experiences?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2015, 12:24:52 AM »

Never been but my advice is don't look in the most popular, well advertised areas but in the general vicinity.  My hubby went out to an area here in Az to look for geodes.  Where the most popular area is, it was very picked over, like you said, but up the road a bit they found a spot in a dry creek bed where they were laying right on the surface.

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Re: Wiley's Well trip...advice/experiences?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2015, 09:06:30 PM »

My trip was a roaring success!  I'm a little busy this week but I'll get a trip report and pictures together soon.  Met a bunch of great people out there (all the old-timers who winter there every season) and managed to get into a good hole and pull out a couple buckets of geodes.
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Re: Wiley's Well trip...advice/experiences?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2015, 11:18:38 PM »

Awesome!  Glad you had such a good time. Can't wait to see the trip report, and your buckets of goodies. :-)

Where are you located? Maybe next time we could plan our trips to coincide.
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Re: Wiley's Well trip...advice/experiences?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2015, 11:34:51 AM »

Awesome man!  Glad you made it back in one piece and really glad to hear you had such a good trip!  Welcome home.  :)
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Re: Wiley's Well trip...advice/experiences?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2015, 03:42:33 PM »

Heck yeah looking forward to seeing what you dug up!
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Re: Wiley's Well trip...advice/experiences?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2015, 07:09:38 PM »

Success is good!   :headbang:  Looking forward to your trip report and pictures.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Wiley's Well trip...updated, trip report.
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2015, 10:33:38 AM »

What a great time I had at Wileys Well!  It is not only a great place for rockhounds, it is just generally a beautiful area (if you love deserts like I do) and there is a lot of interesting things around.  I had prepared for this trip to such an extent that I was able to drive right to all the places I wanted to go without getting lost.  That made it nice and allowed me to maximize my days.  In fact, I was so efficient at my rockhounding plans that I found I was able to take time each afternoon and just wander around exploring.  Theres always some fun in that.

Although I camped alone out in the desert I did spend some time each evening just before sunset visiting with the guys at Coon Hollow campground.  These are the people who go out and spend the winters there every year.  Each evening at 5 they have what they call 'happy hour' where they gather at a central point in the campground and BS for an hour or two.  They are a wealth of knowledge about the area and are just a fun bunch of guys who love rocks.  They are not shy about sharing info about the area also, especially after I spent some time with them.  They know where all the good material is being pulled from each year, and they are full of stories about the area (some of which had me in stitches).  Befriending them was the best thing that came out of the week.  I exchanged info and will stay in touch, and no doubt will see them back there in winters to come.

And then theres the rocks.  My first day down I hounded around the manganese mines down Milpitas wash.  I wanted to find some psilomelane.  I did find some nice pieces and I hope they slab up nicely.  I've heard all the stories about how messy this stuff is, but I love the finished product so I'll give it a shot.  But of course my main reason to go to Wileys Well was geodes.  I learned a lot about geodes and digging for them this week.  First thing I learned is that a guy has to be prepared to dig a big ass hole and get absolutely nothing from it!  I spent 3 hours of back-breaking labor in one spot at the Potato Patch and never saw a single geode.  Also got skunked at the Cinnamon beds that day before collecting some small ones from the Straw Beds.  The next day I managed to dig a few out of a hole at the Black Agate beds, but got skunked again on a hole in the Hidden Saddle beds.  My last full day there I had almost given up digging more holes when I decided to give it one more go at the Southern end of the Hauser beds.  There I pulled out two 5 gallon buckets full of nice geodes, and probably could have filled 2 more with broken pieces and small stuff.  I was really glad I hadn't given up on digging that last hole.  And that was the second thing I learned about digging geodes, you can do all the research and know as much about them as anyone and there is still a little bit of luck involved in finding them.  Persistence is the key.

So anyway the camping was great, the rocks were great, and the new friends were great.  All in all it was a slam dunk.  And I barely scratched the surface of what there is to see and do there.  I will be back many times in years to come, no doubt about it.

Lets get to some pictures!

Here is the view from the Black Label mine looking NE towards the Opal Hill mine.


The ocotillos were in bloom.  They can be kinda ugly at other times of the year, but are gorgeous in the spring.


Didn't see much wildlife.  Not one snake, which surprised me.  I heard lots of coyotes every night but couldn't see them in the dark.  And other than the birds (lots of vultures, some crows and hawks, and various small birds) the most interesting thing I saw was lizards.  Did come across one lazy horned lizard who was sunning on a rock.  He barely opened his eyes to look at me even when I stroked his back.


Here was the very first geode I found.  Had to document it! lol


The well that gives the area its name.


Desert sunsets are always fantastic.  The first night there was even a sun pillar at sunset.


But the sunset my last night was spectacular!  Such an angry looking sky, and so bright that it was even nice facing away from the sunset (second picture).



I eat like a king when I go camping.  I do believe some of the best meals I've ever eaten were cooked in a campfire and consumed while standing at the tailgate of my truck.



I was so focused on preparing for rockhounding this trip that I neglected to check on something that I usually do....astronomical events.  I knew there was a full moon on Fri night/Sat morn but that was all.  I woke up Sat morning, looked at my watch and saw it was a little after 5 AM.  I looked to the East to see if there was any twilight yet and no, it was dark on the horizon.  I glanced up at the stars and was astounded at how bright they seemed.  Then I thought "wait, its too dark out and there is supposed to be a full moon?"  So I rolled to the West and there was the Moon almost fully eclipsed!  I didn't even know there was going to be a lunar eclipse but I woke up just in time to see it at its full glory!  I lay there for a while marvelling at this beautiful blood red moon before I finally told myself I'd better crawl out of bed and get the camera or I'd be pissed at myself later.  Took a few pictures of it as the morning went on.  It was still partially eclipsed as it slipped below the horizon right before sunrise.



One of the most interesting finds of the week was not rock related at all.  Driving down a dirt road I saw a small white box in the road.  Stopped to pick it up and realized it had a long string attached to it with an antenna-looking deal at the other end laying in the desert.  Also, a remnant of a balloon was clipped to the wire.  I think I'll start another thread on it, but here is a picture of it for now.


Here was the hole I dug in at the South Hauser beds.  This hole produced many geodes of all sizes.  I chose to dig here because I saw someone had been digging recently.  There was a small hole about 12-18 inches deep and a couple feet in diameter.  When I stopped to look at it I noticed that there were some nice looking broken pieces laying next to the hole.  I thought "if they threw these pieces aside they must have found something here".  By the time I walked away the hole was about 6 feet around and over 4 feet deep.


So here was the geodes I brought home.  Most of them came from that Hauser hole, but the small group of different colored (more red) ones in the upper right area came from the Black Agate beds.


These broken ones showed off the possibilities that lay inside.


So I decided to cut my first ones open yesterday afternoon.  Here is the first geode I cut.


And while I was waiting for that one to finish on the slab saw I grabbed a tiny little nodule and zipped it in half on the trim saw just for kicks.  This thing was only about an inch in diameter, but still amazingly beautiful inside.


So anyway, thats a quick look at some of my time at Wileys Well.  Hope you enjoyed!
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2015, 11:11:37 AM »

Great job!!!!!!  I've never been that successful at Hauser. I'm going with you next time, LOL!
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Re: Wiley's Well trip...updated, trip report.
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2015, 11:51:55 AM »

This was a super cool trip documentary.  I really enjoyed the read!  I am glad you were able to find something to take hope with you; the pictures are cool but on a rock hounding trip, you need rocks too!

I will ask about the weather balloon in the other thread...
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2015, 01:07:46 PM »

WOW, all that packed into one trip!!! Thanks for posting the photos and discriptions; the trip will last a long time with your mystry find to think about too :headbang:
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2015, 08:40:33 PM »

Excellent trip report and photos!  Sounds like you really had it all on this trip, including a Blue Moon (as well as an eclipse).   :occasion14:  You came back with quite a beautiful haul!   :WEEEE: :WEEEE:
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2015, 10:00:54 PM »

Excellent report and a very lucky catch on the moon. I had not realized that I had collected there about 10 years ago until I recognized it in your description. My daughter and I had wandered through there on a climbing trip. she did not have her license yet so we used that are to practice her driving. Thanks for the memories.
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